How To Do A Melting Point Test - by superchicken
well obviously the 1 bad thing about making your own steroids is you get a
the mail that's usually white, so how do you know what it really is? what if the
source sent the wrong one? or what if he was scandalous and cut it with
something to profit more? how do you know?
well a few ways.
Obviously the best and only fail proof way is to have a lab test it for you, this
way you will know what it is without doubt, and also how pure it is. this is
most recommended. but obviously you cant walk into just any lab and hand them
some steroid powder and expect them not to question you lol. This also be
somewhat expensive sometimes.
You can also look up a physical description in chemistry books such as the Merck
Index, to try and get a rough visual description of the powder for shits and
kicks. not recommended at all.
Some gear is a liquid or paste at room temp. such examples of this are
testosterone enanthate, Boldenone undecylenate (equipoise), and I also believe
decanoate (Deca). there may be other these just came to mind.
this is because hormones have melting points, this is the temperature where they
change (usually from a powder) into a liquid. the above mentioned have a melting
point in the range of common room temperature. so they melt at room temp. other
hormones have much higher melting points, so they need to be heated if you
wanted them to melt. (dont confuse melting with dissolving in a solvent/oil)
A crude but very useful home test you can do for free in the privacy of you own
home is a melting point test. this will give you a very good idea if you have
what you think you do, however its not very accurate for testing purity levels,
if its a good source they should be relatively pure though.
Now everything has a specific melting point, this is determined by a few
-The base drug ex. Testosterone, nandrolone, Boldenone,
- the ester attached to the hormone ex. propionate, acetate, enanthate,
decanoate, undecylenate etc...
-The purity of the drug, if there are other things mixed in the powder this will
skew the results of where it melts, they will not always melt separately, but
sometimes do, it depends what the impurity is.
-And finally to a much lesser degree the method the manufacturer used to create
the crystals. this usually has a very minimal effect but I thought I would
So what we can do is a rough test in our ovens to see where our powder melts.
this is not accurate enough to make an assumption on purity levels, but it can
be useful enough to at least tell you you got the test prop you ordered, and
not baking soda.
Now first you find out the melting point of the hormone in question. they are
usually listed in Celsius, so be aware if your oven reads in Fahrenheit.
Lets say we are measuring test prop which has a melting point of 118-122c.
Preheat your oven to about 220f or so, you want it lower than the melting point.
I cant stress this part enough, YOUR OVEN THERMOMETER IS A PIECE OF SHIT AND
ISN'T ACCURATE! it sucks but its true 99% of the time. I'm not kidding when i say
yours could easily be off by 50degrees or more. I'M sure you can see why for our
purposes this is not good. This is the downfall of this home test.
Now what we can do to try and remedy this situation is go buy a couple oven
thermometers at the local supermarket, they are usually under $5 each. I recommend
getting 2 diff types, not 2 of the same model, cause these are pieces of shit as
what we will try to do is use all 3 thermometers to achieve an average reading
between the 3 of them, this will make the temperature reading more accurate. if
you can read them accurate enough do this: thermo 1 reads 215 thermo 2 reads 225
thermo 3 reads 220, add 215+225+220=660 divide by 3 660/3=220 so 220 is your
when placing things in the oven, both the thermometers and the powder, we want
to put a baking sheet in there first, then put something in between the baking
sheet and the thermometer as well as the powder to insulate them. we only want
the air temperature to affect our experiment, not direct (and higher) heat from
the bottom flame/element. you must do this. an oven mitt works well but i set
mine on fire above 375d. below that it was ok, so find something suitable.
put the other 2 into your oven (insulate them) and let the temp stabilize for a
good 10min after it has preheated(important). take a look and see where the temp
reads, hopefully all 2-3 of them read somewhat similar temperatures. if you see
vastly different readings go get another thermometer and put them all in there
and see which one is the piece of shit, find it and throw it away.
ok so we are at 220 degrees now, so put a small amount of powder on a piece of
aluminum foil, and place this in the oven with the thermometers on the
insulator. let it sit at this temp for a few minuets as you lowered the temp
when you open the oven door. every 5-10 min or so SLOWLY increase the temp 5
degrees or so, while watching the thermometers and the powder, noting the temp
and whether the powder has melted yet. when the powder melts look at the temp
and see what temp it melted at. yes this is tedious to sit there looking through
the oven window with a flashlight for 30min, cause you got to watch it carefully
if you want to be as accurate ass possible. i feel bad for those of you who have
a free standing stove, cause you'll be sitting on the floor.
there's a few things to keep in mind
an electric oven heats by cycling its coil element on and off, so the heat turns
on and off, the temp will rise then fall, within a range, this is typically
about 50degrees for an electric oven. this means when you set your oven at 400f
it heats to 425 then cools to 375 then heats to 425 etc....
you can see how this can screw us, so watch those thermometers carefully.
unfortunately they don't respond very fast, meaning if your temp is rising
rapidly your thermo might read 400 while its really at 410. that's why we
increase the heat very very slowly to try and avoid this. sometimes its
unavoidable on certain ovens.
the reason why we must insulate the thermometers and the powder from direct heat
is because the air temp may be 400 but the thermo may get to 450 or more due to
the radiant heat from the coils or flame, we want to measure air temp so we must
shield everything from radiant heat.
if possible try and get a good digital thermometer, not a 12.99 internet chefs
special. such examples are a micrometer which uses a probe type temperature
sender, these are usually very accurate and they react to read the true temp
within seconds, but they cost much more. these are all over the internet for
if you have certain newer models of stoves, consider yourself lucky. a Maytag
with the advanced cooking system, a whirlpool with the accubake system, or a
general electric with the true temp system (they write this visibly on the oven
somewhere easily seen). these are superior in that as opposed to a conventional
stove which will heat to 425 then 375 then 425 etc.. they will typically
maintain the temp within about 5 degrees of where you set them to, so 400
degrees is 398 then 402 then 398, much much better.......
all said and done, our test prop melted at 230 degrees instead of 244-251, what
do we do? well, your thermometers were probably off or the air temp rose faster than
the thermometers could respond. or maybe you powder is unpure. regardless that
would be close enough to know you still have test prop with a high level of
confidence. this test will never be totally accurate but it gives us all a cheap
at home way to feel confident were injecting what we think we are. if it melts
WAY off, well time to talk to your source, but be confident your results are
accurate before you rag on him.
another method that's more accurate and i mentioned above is the probe type
thermometer. you can simply sit there and wait till it melts, stick the tip of
the probe into the melted liquid, and in a few seconds you'll have an accurate
temp. I recommend this way. get a probe that's designed for contact/liquid etc...
and has a fast response time, there are diff types of probes and you don't want
measure liquid with an air probe.
I'll cover this more in depth later, my fingers hurt like hell and I want a
UPDATE- since like mentioned above electric oven cycle on and off, and if set to
400 they will rise to 425 then go down to 375 then back up to 425 etc... combine
that with how most thermometers react very slow, this gives us a bad reading.
you watch your hormone melt and then read the thermometer and it says 410
degrees, but its actually 430 cause your thermometers react slower than the
speed at which the air temp rises.
What I do to combat this works really well. if you listen to your electric oven
you will hear a faint click as it cycles on and again when it cycles off. this
is the thermometer turning the heating element on and off. now lets say we are
at 400d. we want to increase it by 5d so were at 405. so the oven turns on and
the heating element heats up. the element gets hot and heats the air obviously,
but by the time the hot air reaches the ovens thermometer, that element is very
hot, probably red hot. ok so anyway the oven senses its now at 405, so it turns
the element off. but this is the problem-that element is still red hot and is
still heating the air, and will continue to heat the air hotter and hotter for a
min or2-you can see our problem. now this wouldn't matter if our thermometers
reacted fast, but they don't they are slow.
so do this:
your at 400
Turn the oven up like 50degrees, very soon or immediately you should hear a
click, basically you want to know when the oven turns the heating element on.
once it turns on (again you'll usually hear a click) then count to 10, and turn
the oven OFF. within a few minutes the air temp will have risen about 5 degrees,
and your thermometers will show this. if it doesn't, repeat the process and this
time count to 15 or 20, ovens vary so you'll need to figure out what works for
What happened is you just let the element turn on for a few seconds, just enough
to get the element a little warmer, just enough to heat the air 5 degrees.
This is much better than letting the oven turn itself off, cause if you do that
you might end up as high as 440degrees! yikes! we only wanted to go to 405!
so then to go to 410 just repeat this process again and again until your powder
also a good practice to do, is once your powder melts, if your oven is not
already turned off, then turn it off asap. then let things sit for a few min and
see how high the temp goes. if you did things correctly the temp should not rise
more than a few degrees since you turned the oven off, or ideally it should not
rise at all. so if your temp read 420 when the powder melted, and you turn the
oven off, and 3 min later it reads 425, then your powder melted between 420 to
425d. but if it melted at 420, and then 3 min later your thermometers read 440,
then you have no choice but to assume it melted somewhere in between, but that's a
20 degree guess-not very accurate.
man I must be confusing the hell outta you guys lol, hope this makes sense.
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